Phil Drysdale - The Deconstruction Journey

Who Is Phil?

Phil Drysdale is a public speaker, podcaster, researcher, and coach specialising in the area of Deconstruction. For over a decade he’s helped people navigate the painful journey beyond their faith tradition. He conducts research into the Deconstruction community through The Deconstruction Network, runs a regular podcast about Deconstruction, provides free resources to help people on their journeys and offers a safe space for people to process their deconstruction.

Episode Summary

  • Phil explains what the term ‘deconstruction’ encompasses and takes us through the 3 markers of someone deconstructing.

  • We address the misconception that deconstruction equals deconversion.

  • Phil reinforces that deconstruction is about the internal process of shifting rather than the answer or a new belief system.

  • We explore the common themes that come up for those who are going through this process.

  • Phil discusses the stability and safety that comes from fundamental, black & white thinking providing a level of certainty.

  • We explore the role of autonomy and conditions of worth and how lots of small shifts can create substantial change.

  • Deconstruction isn’t always a conscious choice; we discuss this surprising notion.

  • Phil talks about the likelihood that those who deconstruct were those that were fervent in their faith.

  • We explore the role of shame and regret particularly for those who are a part of the LGBTQIA+ community.

  • I share about the difficulty that comes when you realise that you were a part of upholding a harmful system.

  • I ask Phil to share about what it is like to deconstruct and what helps to navigate the challenges.

  • Phil reinforces the need for self-compassion and kindness towards us during change.

  • Community is a core component of being human. We discuss the importance and role of community whilst deconstructing.

  • Finally, Phil answers the question “what would you say to someone fresh in their deconstruction?”

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